Neil Degrasse Tyson reflects on what prompted him to record a 17-minute video detailing the shortcomings of Terrence Howard ’s lengthy math and physics treatise in a new interview with Shannon Sharpe .

Appearing on the Club Shay Shay podcast , as seen below, Tyson, naturally, was asked about the much-discussed 2024 moment, which saw him offering a thorough response to his then-recent mention by Howard in a Joe Rogan interview. At the time, Howard had likened Tyson’s notes on his treatise to an “attack,” while Tyson viewed his criticism as merely being a sign of respect and in line with how any such paper would be treated by his peers.

“He sends me this 30-page document titled ‘1 x 1 = 2,’ where he says all of math is wrong,” Tyson said of Howard, with whom he was first connected thanks, in part, to a Star Talk interview idea from his mother.…